I didn't know i was in a group. So maybe it is something for those not in the group huh.
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I didn't know i was in a group. So maybe it is something for those not in the group huh.
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Good God. I swear I don't think you read anything. You just skim over pick out words and reply. I just named 4-5 random people, I didn't say any of them had anything against you or anyone else. And where the hell is this damned fence? I could care less about any of this garbage. I hate it when the board turns into this garbage. I'm not sure what fence I'm supposed to be playing. The B.S. that you're "tired of" you're not helping by raising hell with anyone on here. Saying Mega acts black, what the hell is that supposed to mean. That guy had all but quit posting on here, and you just bring him out and start bashing him for no reason. He's one of the ones Rock protects I guess. Even though he banned him for a week or two a couple of months ago. All I said in reply to Rock's post is that not everyone is going to get along on here and everyone would be better off like Mr. G. if they just let things roll off their backs and not worry about it, and you drag me into this stupidity. The bad thing is I'm stupid enough to reply and I actually took you off my "ignore this user" list.
"There he goes, one of Gods own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die"
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Hey man, it's . Haven't spoken to you in a while, but wanted to check in. With the recent rash of posts you've had, it seems like there's more going on w/you than just the usual crap on the board.
Everything ok? You aren't acting like you usually do, and to be frank with you, it looks like you're embarrassing yourself w/a lot of the other well-established posters here. I know you wouldn't do that on purpose, so what's the deal?
Get back to me when you can.
Thanks,
Sent to: Honestly, I'm tired of seeing these young kids get on here and go after people.
I like Double D. But it has been a constant thing with him going after Centennial Dawg. Even after the man confessed his sins on here. It was he needs to do more.
When did the forum turn into we have to get forgiveness. The man messed up. Many knew it and many knew what happened. But the Ely kid would not let up and he won't. It's his way of doing things.
I'm just a little fed up with some. You have had child molesters. Drug users and thieves on here. Some which still are. Their identities may not be out. But let one person say something and everyone goes crazy. Many people have messaged me just straight out asking. What click do you have to be in to post on here.
And the other is why does Rocketer play it both ways. Some say Fred says no flaming of players or coaches. But then allows a post like the one on Coach Godsey.
Honestly Brad it seems like it's a 15 person forum anymore. If your not in the group. You have no reason to speak. And if you do you will try to be humiliated or something brought up.
You wanted to know that is some of what is bothering not only me. But many. Look at for yourself. The usual posters is about all you have. Or at least that post regular.
I may be embrassing myself. But i am speaking for more than just me. It's one reason many have left. They couldn't say anything.
Don't agree with me. Ask Sportsman and a few others.
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Let me try to shed some light on what I'm seeing on the forum as of right now...
We had a major influx of new people who didn't realize board etiquette, and what to take seriously and what to let go. Most of those are now banned or they have adjusted well enough to stay on here and hopefully become positive contributors to the forums. Let me take some of your grievances piece by piece:
The situation with Don Swiney/Centennial & Darrell Dingus-Ely/PVFAN is one where both sides are majorly at fault, and I've called them both on it when it all flared up before yesterday. I actually said the next time either one of their personal grievances were aired on open forum, that they would both be banned, no questions asked. I should have followed through on that despite the fact that I feel they're both valuable posters in their own right. Don wouldn't let up on judging Darrell's short-comings as far as gambling and some of his political viewpoints (and I like DJ, but he joined in there for a little while as well). Darrell in retaliation of that brought up what Don had done in the past and held it over his head, which was wrong as well. It's the old saying playing out here on the board: "Two wrongs don't make a right". I realize you're defending Don because he's a friend, but then again, wasn't Darrell doing the same thing with a lot of the kids that Don was calling out by name when the whole PV party fiasco went down? I'm not defending either one of them, because they were both wrong, but it's not "Don's a fallen angel who's paid his dues and Darrell's a ignorant young man who thinks he knows it all" as all of your recent posts have painted it.
As for the dregs of society posting on here, we have child molesters, drug users/dealers, theives, and our fair share of drunks on here posting daily. If we tried to make this forum the forum of the sinless, then we wouldn't have more than 0 members. Until they get locked away and put into prison--Rock, myself, nor any other mod/admin can keep them from posting as a registered user. It's kind of a moot point that you keep bringing up. Frankly, if for instance we banned Burrhead for his drug use/dealing (which isn't 100% proven), then we'd have to ban you for what a lot of people have told me about yourself--that you drink WAY too much, then get on here and post while you're blitzed--but both of those are rumor. However, that'd be a double-standard, and neither myself nor any other mod/admin is going to apply something like that on purpose.
The Godsey situation consists of a lot of threads discussing what has been in the papers. Sure you've seen some guys get on here and say some disparaging things about the man, but one thing I had to keep in mind is that NO ONE on here knew all the facts and probably still doesn't know all there is to know about the situation. Lots of people said some stupid things out of pure ignorance, and that's why the more vociferous things were deleted and those posters either warned or banned. You've got to remember--even if you don't see it, we have the ability to PM and warn people about things, and that was done in that situation. The sticky that Rock put up about Godsey was to knock down a lot of of the foolishness that I personally had to ban about 4-5 posters over for a week or more after numerous warnings via PM. NONE of the mods/admins like to do that, but we will do it if anyone's detracting from the board. The Godsey situation was a highly delicate situation, and flaming happened at first, but we can't lord over every post and weigh it and measure it and then drop the hatchet right then...we have to take into account the entire situation, who the poster is (new or established), and whether or not they actually know what they're talking about.
You're painting things like Godsey was the lamb brought to the slaughter known as the LPD Forum. Rock and I along w/the rest of the admins/mods allowed open discussion on it for a while until it got ridiculous, then we took action. We haven't taken a stance for/against Godsey--but we've tried to give a place for people to voice their opinion one way or the other on the given situation, good or bad given what is known. That's all we can do and that's all this forum is for.
As for the whole clique thing, sure--there's posters on here that I'm very good friends with (i.e.--burton2019, mega, knight67, Ironlung, yourself, Rock, Counts, 1inStripes, The_Beast, NotSoSilentBob, Indian_Dad, elp6n, PVFAN, Biggin, vthokie22, etc...), but all of them know (you included) that if you step over thhe line, I'm gonna call you on it. If it's not a positive contribution to the board, then it's not going to belong here. I've had to come an ace of banning more than 1 of those that I named just in the time I've been a mod. Lots of them I've disagreed with, but yes--they will get some more slack from me as a mod because I understand how they think and the intent behind their posts a lot better. If I didn't know you Bobby--dead honest--you would have gotten banned for your comments towards posters like Rock & PVFAN, because you kept pressing a situation and calling people out for things they weren't even doing--and ultimately contributing in a negative manner to the board. But guess what...I didn't, because I wanted to see what was bugging you because you're a longtime member of the board. So if it's a "clique" mentality you're complaining about, maybe you shouldn't be complaining so hard because if we didn't know each other, and I based what I know about you just off of yesterday's posts, then you would have been gone for negative influences on the board (making unfound judgements about moderation style, baiting another poster into an argument on open forum instead of taking it to PM's, etc.). Count your lucky stars Bobby--don't take that for granted that sometimes you just know the right people, and that gets you that 2nd or 3rd chance when you do something wrong.
Also, if other posters like Sportsman have a problem--then they need to voice it in a complete manner to me via PM, and I've PROMISED since day one I became a mod to help posters out, whether I agree or disagree with them. Why? Because I want relatively free exchange of ideas on this board that everyone can enjoy. If someone's not enjoying it, let's hear why and maybe a way can be figured out to fix it.
Bottom line is this--I think given the hectic circumstances that have come up with some controversial subjects in the past year that Rock, Counts, myself, and some other of the mods have done a [censored] good job at keeping the board a positive place and an informative place on not just LPD sports, but world issues, local issues, religious/political issues, major/college sports issues, and everything inbetween. I'm proud of what we've done so far, but if there's anything we can do to improve--let us have it. Here's your chance--you and anyone else tell me what you think needs to be fixed and we'll do it.
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Well if what PVFAN has done for a year or more can be justified that is fine.
You also wasn't here when Jim, Rocketer and Counts left for six months or so, when an article hit the Richmond Times. Yeah i know it is to be no big deal. But me and several others got hung out.
As far as how i have done lately. It's indirect relations to how the board is going.
You can't have a conversation without others destroying it. Just like me entering the one where me and DD had words.
Then you have Bob, who honestly is filthy at best. And says things that are a bit unneeded on a sports forum.
Burton2019 well he jumps into every one's business and tries to protray himself as a saint. Yet always tries to embrass anyone who says anything to him. And some of the avatars.
mega and biggin. Every other sentence they post is full of cussing and censors.
And as far as what i said to DD it is the truth. The young man tries to crusade and just taunt people into saying something. Even trying to speak on things he had no proof of. And i know who the person was he was talking about. It was a former moderator, who lost their cool, and called me out.
Tell me Brad when did we all have to just follow the rules or the programs of those you listed.
I don't count myself better than anyone. And i have had many ask me why is all this allowed.
I've had folks ask me why do you let them make acqusations toward you.
On the first one. I say it's up to the moderators to correct how things are done and what is and is not alowed.
On the second i tell folks i get on here and some times act like the majority. Rude, Crude and obnixious. I left out the cussing and nasty stuff.
Now you see things how you want. And i see them from what i see and what i hear from many.
In fact i got PM's last night from folks who pointed out almost everyone you mentioned, except for 4 people as being the major problem with this forum.
Folks dont' say alot. They just get disgusted and leave. And some don't even make it past their first post.
You are right on some things Brad. But also there is some cleaning up and honestly some talk that needs to go on, between those who are in some of the cliques.
You wanted to know why i acted out of character. To let those who do it in character [censored] and complain.
I was gonna post. Ok guys i did and acted like many of you do all the time. Now how does it feel. When you can't come on here and post or comment without some trying to humiliate you or to get ridiculous post. Or to have a conversation going and have it blown apart because a few can do it.
Your a smart fellow Brad. But honestly you need to step back and read this and then look and see how far off i am.
And yes we've had some very bad people post on here. The one molester i know was eagle45 he also posted on the CD forum. And we've had others. Just like the things said about me. Well i don't get on here drinking or drunk.
So it don't bother me what people say or think they know.
As far as being lucky. Well Rocketer can ban me. He has done it before and guess who it was over. burrhead and his mouth. He plays the same thing PVFAN does.
Like i said Brad it's just not me. It's many that see a problem on the forum. And a lot of favoritism for certain one's.
You wanted to know why i acted the way i did. Well that is how i see it daily when i get on here to read. And even at that and not posting for awhile. I just shook my head.
Now instead of taking this wrong and getting defensive. Step back and look and see how far off i am. About a few of those who post and what they say and how they act. Is that what a forum for children should have. I know some don't have access to all the forums. But at times they dont' need to.
There is a lot that goes on. That well disgust many. Many just leave. If that is what is wanted. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just get a room in yahoo chat. Then to pay for a forum that has become very similiar to a yahoo chat room.
You wanted to know. So that is what i see and many others see also. Many don't say a word. Because they see it as a clique and if they do or they respond back to someone, they feel they will be ban.
Like i said. Step back and examine it and see. And ask yourself this. If i had a teen would i let them even read the sports and nonsports forum on here.
You wanted to know. So there you go.
Bobby
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Hey man, it's . Haven't spoken to you in a while, but wanted to check in. With the recent rash of posts you've had, it seems like there's more going on w/you than just the usual crap on the board.
Everything ok? You aren't acting like you usually do, and to be frank with you, it looks like you're embarrassing yourself w/a lot of the other well-established posters here. I know you wouldn't do that on purpose, so what's the deal?
Get back to me when you can.
Thanks,
Sent to: Honestly, I'm tired of seeing these young kids get on here and go after people.
I like Double D. But it has been a constant thing with him going after Centennial Dawg. Even after the man confessed his sins on here. It was he needs to do more.
When did the forum turn into we have to get forgiveness. The man messed up. Many knew it and many knew what happened. But the Ely kid would not let up and he won't. It's his way of doing things.
I'm just a little fed up with some. You have had child molesters. Drug users and thieves on here. Some which still are. Their identities may not be out. But let one person say something and everyone goes crazy. Many people have messaged me just straight out asking. What click do you have to be in to post on here.
And the other is why does Rocketer play it both ways. Some say Fred says no flaming of players or coaches. But then allows a post like the one on Coach Godsey.
Honestly Brad it seems like it's a 15 person forum anymore. If your not in the group. You have no reason to speak. And if you do you will try to be humiliated or something brought up.
You wanted to know that is some of what is bothering not only me. But many. Look at for yourself. The usual posters is about all you have. Or at least that post regular.
I may be embrassing myself. But i am speaking for more than just me. It's one reason many have left. They couldn't say anything.
Don't agree with me. Ask Sportsman and a few others.
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Let me try to shed some light on what I'm seeing on the forum as of right now...
We had a major influx of new people who didn't realize board etiquette, and what to take seriously and what to let go. Most of those are now banned or they have adjusted well enough to stay on here and hopefully become positive contributors to the forums. Let me take some of your grievances piece by piece:
The situation with Don Swiney/Centennial & Darrell Dingus-Ely/PVFAN is one where both sides are majorly at fault, and I've called them both on it when it all flared up before yesterday. I actually said the next time either one of their personal grievances were aired on open forum, that they would both be banned, no questions asked. I should have followed through on that despite the fact that I feel they're both valuable posters in their own right. Don wouldn't let up on judging Darrell's short-comings as far as gambling and some of his political viewpoints (and I like DJ, but he joined in there for a little while as well). Darrell in retaliation of that brought up what Don had done in the past and held it over his head, which was wrong as well. It's the old saying playing out here on the board: "Two wrongs don't make a right". I realize you're defending Don because he's a friend, but then again, wasn't Darrell doing the same thing with a lot of the kids that Don was calling out by name when the whole PV party fiasco went down? I'm not defending either one of them, because they were both wrong, but it's not "Don's a fallen angel who's paid his dues and Darrell's a ignorant young man who thinks he knows it all" as all of your recent posts have painted it.
As for the dregs of society posting on here, we have child molesters, drug users/dealers, theives, and our fair share of drunks on here posting daily. If we tried to make this forum the forum of the sinless, then we wouldn't have more than 0 members. Until they get locked away and put into prison--Rock, myself, nor any other mod/admin can keep them from posting as a registered user. It's kind of a moot point that you keep bringing up. Frankly, if for instance we banned Burrhead for his drug use/dealing (which isn't 100% proven), then we'd have to ban you for what a lot of people have told me about yourself--that you drink WAY too much, then get on here and post while you're blitzed--but both of those are rumor. However, that'd be a double-standard, and neither myself nor any other mod/admin is going to apply something like that on purpose.
The Godsey situation consists of a lot of threads discussing what has been in the papers. Sure you've seen some guys get on here and say some disparaging things about the man, but one thing I had to keep in mind is that NO ONE on here knew all the facts and probably still doesn't know all there is to know about the situation. Lots of people said some stupid things out of pure ignorance, and that's why the more vociferous things were deleted and those posters either warned or banned. You've got to remember--even if you don't see it, we have the ability to PM and warn people about things, and that was done in that situation. The sticky that Rock put up about Godsey was to knock down a lot of of the foolishness that I personally had to ban about 4-5 posters over for a week or more after numerous warnings via PM. NONE of the mods/admins like to do that, but we will do it if anyone's detracting from the board. The Godsey situation was a highly delicate situation, and flaming happened at first, but we can't lord over every post and weigh it and measure it and then drop the hatchet right then...we have to take into account the entire situation, who the poster is (new or established), and whether or not they actually know what they're talking about.
You're painting things like Godsey was the lamb brought to the slaughter known as the LPD Forum. Rock and I along w/the rest of the admins/mods allowed open discussion on it for a while until it got ridiculous, then we took action. We haven't taken a stance for/against Godsey--but we've tried to give a place for people to voice their opinion one way or the other on the given situation, good or bad given what is known. That's all we can do and that's all this forum is for.
As for the whole clique thing, sure--there's posters on here that I'm very good friends with (i.e.--burton2019, mega, knight67, Ironlung, yourself, Rock, Counts, 1inStripes, The_Beast, NotSoSilentBob, Indian_Dad, elp6n, PVFAN, Biggin, vthokie22, etc...), but all of them know (you included) that if you step over thhe line, I'm gonna call you on it. If it's not a positive contribution to the board, then it's not going to belong here. I've had to come an ace of banning more than 1 of those that I named just in the time I've been a mod. Lots of them I've disagreed with, but yes--they will get some more slack from me as a mod because I understand how they think and the intent behind their posts a lot better. If I didn't know you Bobby--dead honest--you would have gotten banned for your comments towards posters like Rock & PVFAN, because you kept pressing a situation and calling people out for things they weren't even doing--and ultimately contributing in a negative manner to the board. But guess what...I didn't, because I wanted to see what was bugging you because you're a longtime member of the board. So if it's a "clique" mentality you're complaining about, maybe you shouldn't be complaining so hard because if we didn't know each other, and I based what I know about you just off of yesterday's posts, then you would have been gone for negative influences on the board (making unfound judgements about moderation style, baiting another poster into an argument on open forum instead of taking it to PM's, etc.). Count your lucky stars Bobby--don't take that for granted that sometimes you just know the right people, and that gets you that 2nd or 3rd chance when you do something wrong.
Also, if other posters like Sportsman have a problem--then they need to voice it in a complete manner to me via PM, and I've PROMISED since day one I became a mod to help posters out, whether I agree or disagree with them. Why? Because I want relatively free exchange of ideas on this board that everyone can enjoy. If someone's not enjoying it, let's hear why and maybe a way can be figured out to fix it.
Bottom line is this--I think given the hectic circumstances that have come up with some controversial subjects in the past year that Rock, Counts, myself, and some other of the mods have done a [censored] good job at keeping the board a positive place and an informative place on not just LPD sports, but world issues, local issues, religious/political issues, major/college sports issues, and everything inbetween. I'm proud of what we've done so far, but if there's anything we can do to improve--let us have it. Here's your chance--you and anyone else tell me what you think needs to be fixed and we'll do it.
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Well if what PVFAN has done for a year or more can be justified that is fine.
You also wasn't here when Jim, Rocketer and Counts left for six months or so, when an article hit the Richmond Times. Yeah i know it is to be no big deal. But me and several others got hung out.
As far as how i have done lately. It's indirect relations to how the board is going.
You can't have a conversation without others destroying it. Just like me entering the one where me and DD had words.
Then you have Bob, who honestly is filthy at best. And says things that are a bit unneeded on a sports forum.
Burton2019 well he jumps into every one's business and tries to protray himself as a saint. Yet always tries to embrass anyone who says anything to him. And some of the avatars.
mega and biggin. Every other sentence they post is full of cussing and censors.
And as far as what i said to DD it is the truth. The young man tries to crusade and just taunt people into saying something. Even trying to speak on things he had no proof of. And i know who the person was he was talking about. It was a former moderator, who lost their cool, and called me out.
Tell me Brad when did we all have to just follow the rules or the programs of those you listed.
I don't count myself better than anyone. And i have had many ask me why is all this allowed.
I've had folks ask me why do you let them make acqusations toward you.
On the first one. I say it's up to the moderators to correct how things are done and what is and is not alowed.
On the second i tell folks i get on here and some times act like the majority. Rude, Crude and obnixious. I left out the cussing and nasty stuff.
Now you see things how you want. And i see them from what i see and what i hear from many.
In fact i got PM's last night from folks who pointed out almost everyone you mentioned, except for 4 people as being the major problem with this forum.
Folks dont' say alot. They just get disgusted and leave. And some don't even make it past their first post.
You are right on some things Brad. But also there is some cleaning up and honestly some talk that needs to go on, between those who are in some of the cliques.
You wanted to know why i acted out of character. To let those who do it in character [censored] and complain.
I was gonna post. Ok guys i did and acted like many of you do all the time. Now how does it feel. When you can't come on here and post or comment without some trying to humiliate you or to get ridiculous post. Or to have a conversation going and have it blown apart because a few can do it.
Your a smart fellow Brad. But honestly you need to step back and read this and then look and see how far off i am.
And yes we've had some very bad people post on here. The one molester i know was eagle45 he also posted on the CD forum. And we've had others. Just like the things said about me. Well i don't get on here drinking or drunk.
So it don't bother me what people say or think they know.
As far as being lucky. Well Rocketer can ban me. He has done it before and guess who it was over. burrhead and his mouth. He plays the same thing PVFAN does.
Like i said Brad it's just not me. It's many that see a problem on the forum. And a lot of favoritism for certain one's.
You wanted to know why i acted the way i did. Well that is how i see it daily when i get on here to read. And even at that and not posting for awhile. I just shook my head.
Now instead of taking this wrong and getting defensive. Step back and look and see how far off i am. About a few of those who post and what they say and how they act. Is that what a forum for children should have. I know some don't have access to all the forums. But at times they dont' need to.
There is a lot that goes on. That well disgust many. Many just leave. If that is what is wanted. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just get a room in yahoo chat. Then to pay for a forum that has become very similiar to a yahoo chat room.
You wanted to know. So that is what i see and many others see also. Many don't say a word. Because they see it as a clique and if they do or they respond back to someone, they feel they will be ban.
Like i said. Step back and examine it and see. And ask yourself this. If i had a teen would i let them even read the sports and nonsports forum on here.
You wanted to know. So there you go.
Bobby
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What do you want them to do with all of the people with DUI's, Drug Dealers, Pedophiles, ect on here? Should you have to send in an application? Should they have to get references? As for "What click do you have to be in to post on here." Who's stopping someone from posting? PVFan shouldn't have held something over someone elses head that he had over them. I don't think anyone is arguing that. As for people leaving, it happens all of the time. People get pissed at what others put on here, they get bored with it, they just find something else better to do. Like I said earlier, everyone gets something different out of it. Some like to instigate fights for no reason, some like to make bogus accounts of wrestlers, bands, and other things. I'm just on here to talk about sports, music, and movies. That's about it. I don't care if you're on here tomorrow, Bob, Freddie, Counts, or anyone else. I can find somebody to talk to. I used to talk alot with that guy BigMoneyHustler from TW a few years ago about music. He left, hasn't been on for years, I found someone else to talk to about the same stuff. If things bother you so bad, just delete your account and quit coming here. If it bothered me as much as you say it does you, I'd quit. I don't let it bother me, which again, is what I was saying in my reply to Rock that you of course had to jump on me for.
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I'm kind of torn on Lou. He's a mixed bag. I just hope the pitching staff can stay healthy this season.
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Yuk, baseball. My grass is growing if you guys want to come watch it. The next few days should be really exciting with the rain we got today.
"There he goes, one of Gods own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die"
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